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of florida, charlie crist joins us tonight. >>> president obama is campaigning and republicans are considering. will the president gain a small victory on taxes or a big deal. >>> and we have the annual list of the most notable quotes of the year, the verbal gaffes forever. the list is fool of bloopers like legitimate rape and etch-a-sket etch-a-sketch. let's see if you can guess which verbal stupble made the top of the list. >>> let me finish with the key percentages of the year. remember 1%? remember 8%? and, of course, 47%. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've got nine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. he opened up jake's very private world. at first, jake's family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong, his family only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein..
house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the joke's on him because i know some republicans who have had their eyelids surgically removed. >> also what caused former indiana senate candidate richard mourdock at first the likely winner in that race to end up losing to joe donnelly? you might well point to this moment from a mourdock/donnelly debate. >> i struggled with it myself for a long time but realized life is a gift from god. even when life begins in the horrible situation of rape it is something god intended to happen. >> mourdock's popularity plummeted after that. now he's trying to pay down campaign debt. guess who's getting blamed for his election loss in the fund raising e-mail? quote, republicans all over the country were forced to accept defeat rather than celebrate victory. in our case we found ourselves caught in the liberal media cross hairs. never has indiana seen a more obvious example of media bias by reporters more interested in defeating conservatives than reporter the news. rnc chair reince priebus had him in mind
west lost his bid for reelection. what does he think about republicans negotiating with president obama on the fiscal cliff? like a lot of other things, it all comes down to socialism. here's what he told radio host mark levin. >> i think this whole thing about having negotiations with president obama is silly. president obama is a marxist, socialist, rigid ied lo log. and for whatever reason he believes he had some self conceico self-conceived mandate to go out and further destroy and ruin our economy. >> if you have any lingers nostalgia, that should kill it. patrick murphy somehow cheated to win the race, supposedly. >> the most important thing everyone has to understand is my voice is not going to be lost. we've gotten a lot of opportunities, a lot of offers and we're going to make sure that we have continue to have that platform. i'm not going away just because of a congressional race where he seems to have had to cheat to beat me. >> following the show, the west campaign spent about $18 million for the election, more than quadruple, four times, what his opponent spent and then bea
and as difficult as the situation was for president obama, those heavyweights within the republican party saw the writing on the wall, that it was going to be a very difficult race for even the best candidate, so they all held their fire for possibly 2016, so that's why you're seeing people talk about jeb bush and others. i left chris christie out of that mix as someone people were hoping would run, a strong candidate who would run in '12. that's why you're hearing the names come out now. jo ama >> amazing. newt gingrich, a man who knows a thing or two about the ladies, says hillary clinton would be close to unbeatable if she close to run. do you think we're looking at bush versus clinton in 2016? >> i think the picture on the democratic side this far out, there's a little more clarity to it -- there's a lot more clarity than the republican side. if hillary clinton were to run in 2016 there are obviously no guarantees in life or politics, but within the democratic party for the democratic nomination, she will be a front-runner like we have never seen before. and i know we sort of said that ab
. next up, sarah on the republican line. caller: i think president obama is blackmailing the congress. he thinks since he won the election, he should get his own way. he wins and the taxes on everybody. a one term president was not suggested until president obama said "elections have consequences, and i won the." it was after that that the statement was made. they have roadbed dead horse for miles and miles and miles and it is getting bad. what that meant was it was his way or no way. that is why people said they were working towards a one-term president for him. obama is trying to wreck the economy so he can set up his socialist and communist government and agenda and people will be weak enough they will accept it. host: sarah from west virginia. let's of columns in the paper today. here is one from "the washington times." i want to take you to "the washington post." i want to go to janet from massachusetts on the democratic line. caller: good morning. how are you? i just wanted to say i remember when the bush gave us all $250 per adult for our tax cuts. you add those up and it becomes q
the republicans have reached the end of the line. they're hoping obama will show his cards and come out with cuts for entitlements and then they will show something on tax cuts. >> he has no incentive to do anything at least publicly. >> will they show their cards on tax cuts first ? >> they have to. >> who is going to show their hand first. >> the republicans. they're going to have to. obama can stand pat and he's doing it right now. he can be cool hand luke. >> i think that's the way he is playing, very cool. thank you. he's going to force john boehner to come out and say what he wants done to protect the rich people or not protect them. thank you ron reagan, thank you and dana mill ban. >>> a big anti-union vote in mooer michigan is coming up. a right and left going at it. it isn't about gutting unions. a lot of people think so. stf about lowering wages and hurting democrats? you bet. >>> plus the most talked about movie in hollywood hasn't even talked about. it's about torture. many critics say "zero dark thirty" suggests without torture we wouldn't have gotten the guy. it's going to be hot.
brown. we begin with negotiations to avert the so-called fiscal cliff both republicans and white house hold their lines and no formal talks yesterday. president obama said he wasn't ruling out some reductions in entitlement programs such as medicare and social security, meanwhile house speaker john boehner has to win over hard liners in his own party. susan mcginnis is following it all. >> reporter: hi. good morning. there are some glimmers of common ground here among the two sides that could form the basis of a deal. the president is now talking about actually lowering the tax rate for the top 2% not now but later. and republicans are now taking some heat over their latest plan a lot of it from within their own party. >> five, four -- >> reporter: house speaker john boehner led the countdown to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> one. >> reporter: but a different countdown weighs on the minds of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> rep
. boehner and the republicans have to be aware of where obama's at in his own head and with his colleagues, which is no deal without some increase in rates, or we go over the cliff. >> let me just add one thing. when obama made that initial offer, we talked a little bit about how, you know, it was a wish list. it was ideological, whatever you want to say. i think it actually helped boehner in some respects because it gave him three or four things that he could then go back to his caucus and say, look, i moved obama off of this, this and this. and when boehner put his offer out there, you started to see what could potentially be a chip-trading process going on here, whereby you have some give on, you know, cpi, the inflation index for social security, and in exchange boehner would agree to some marginal rate in the tax rates. now the people need to start figuring out what they want to give and take. >> the only difference i would say, steve, between what the president wants and john boehner is it's not what john boehner wants. it's what john boehner can deliver. >> yeah. >> and this is a si
-- the republicans are saying we need deep savings in entitlement spending and president obama saying he won't compromise on raising the tax rates for the wealthiest americans. >> shannon, you said the republicans are waiting for the president, the president is waiting for the republicans. we're all waiting for everyone here. what kind of deadlines are we talking about? >> we could be looking at a potentially serious deadline for friday, a de facto deadline of sorts with be john. once they reach a deal, the legislative process could actually take two weeks to put into effect. so we're bumping up right against friday that they would potentially need to have a deal in place so that we wouldn't actually go over the clip. it's been serious business but this week could be even more serious, john. >> friday seems pretty quick. we'll see. shannon travis, thanks very much. >> seven minutes past the hour. we're learning more about petty officer first class nicolasd. checque. he's described as hard-working and enthusiastic. he joined the navy in 2002 after graduating from high school and entered the s
it for this edition. tomorrow we have a big show. congresswoman rogers, chair of the house republican conference, former obama foreign policy adviser, former pentagon advis r adviser, "the washington post" eugene robinson and oliver stone. tamron hall is right here. >> hey there, andrea. great to be in d.c. an it is your town. we'll talk about when's happening. another town, michigan. in fact, the state of michigan, of course, following the breaking news. the state legislature just gave final approval to right to work bills despite a massive turnout from protesters. this event is still going on. i'll talk with michigan congressman levin and the focus of the "news nation" gut check. should alor concede on things like right to work in favor of collective bargaining? that's a big question we're posing to you. just in the couple of hours, house speaker john boehner slammed the president saying americans are wondering when the president will get serious when wh it comes to the fiscal cliff talks. meanwhile, nbc's first read team says any deal reached should be a fragile one or could be. "news nation"
people who can't. >> as a reality for republicans is that president obama has won a second term. in many ways he won the argument. now i'm sure he's thinking about history and legacy and he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected. that gives you a power that you don't have in the first term. but he's managed to box the republicans into a place you just don't want to be, where it looks like you're prepared to allow the middle class of america to get taxed from january onwards at at higher level to save the backsides of the wealthiest 2% of americans when 70% of all americans polled say we want the 2% to be paying more tax. that argument's gone, isn't it? >> yes, it is. look, the president can rightly say that he made clear during the campaign for re-election that this was the beginning of how he was going to deal with our national debt problems, raise taxes on the top 2%. he come in with the mandate, and now he continues to advocate it and it gets great support from the american people. i think it's part of a solution to our debt problem, but if you raise taxes the way the president
popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> we just had the super bowl. now we talk about the next one. "new york times" reporter jody cantor interviewed a number of clinton aides about the future plans of hillary clinton and they didn't hold back. jody, great to have you with me today. all corners of clinton world went on record with you about this. you point out the down sides ofa white house run in your piece saying the more serious issue here is she's about 2016, the less she can do. no frank, seen it all memoir. no clients, commissions or controversial positions that could prove problematic. given what the aides told you is it likely she's going to go off the grid for the next several years? >> she's definitely going off the grid for a few weeks or months. her plan is to try to exit the department of state by shortly after inauguration day. and then she really is going into seclusion. lots of people have been asking her to commit for events for 2013. the state department ha
on with this fiscal cliff. it's time to pay. it's not the republican party's fault. obama has been in office four years. he has doubled to the trillions of dollars in debt. host: are you a tea party supporter? caller: i'm not affiliated with the tea party, but i am tired of hearing them blame it, because i see the hard-working generation that are in their 60s that paid in and they are saying enough is enough, we are tired of you taking it out of our wallets. we are tired of crazy liberal laws being shoved down our throats. our rights are being taken away from us day after day and we are like zombies in this country. host: sumter, south carolina, william, a democrat. we're listening to your thoughts this morning on open phones. caller: i am a new listener and a veteran. i am trying to figure out what's going on. when people see that the fiscal cliff and all this other stuff i am trying to understand, how it came about, it was from all the money being spent on war. and i wanted to mention about the veterans. we are the backbone of this country in a sense. that's what they need to focus on more. hos
and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and barack obama are hashing out behind closed doors but more republicans are gravitating to the idea of compromising on a tax rate increase so long as they can get what they want for spending and entitlement cuts. listen. >> those rates are going up. we either act now to keep them from going up from as many people as possible or they will go up on everyone. that's a disaster. let's recognize reality, take care of as many people as we can. >> meanwhile, you're right. the president was in detroit where he continued his outside-inside game of running a campaign-style effort to jin up popular support for the fiscal cliff. because he was in michigan he took a whack at the proposed legislation -- the so-called right to work legislation. listen to the president. >> these so-called right to work laws don't have to do with economics. they have to do with politics. [ cheers ] they're really talking about giving you the right to
obama in 2008. he traveled with him to iraq and afghanistan. so there are lots of republicans, i would have to say, who would not be happy with chuck hagel. he was opposed to the surge in 2007 in iraq. so there are some republicans who might challenge him. >> the cia director, too. so i wouldn't necessarily rule that out. >> there is. >> and what about susan rice? >> that is, of course, the big question. my sources say, the president is still very close to her. a huge susan rice fan, as someone said to me. but this source also said the longer she hangs out there the harder it is. of course, last week was not a great week for her. as you recall, she went to the hill to try to asage republican concerns and mf them came out of that lessen thenthusiast. the president is the one who makes these decisions and he's a huge fan of susan rice. >> well, we'll see what he does. >> and don't forget, in the top four cabinet posts, susan rice is a woman. and i think there's a real sense of diversity in that they'dke to see a woman in one of the top four jobs. >> there should be a woman in the top fou
in january. then the house speaker called on the obama administration to respond to the republicans' deficit reduction proposal that was released earlier this week. president obama is at 9:00 eastern and then speaker boehner. at the museum today, florida senator marco rubio sat down with michaelen of "politico." he answered questions about the fiscal cliff. republican outreach to hispanic voters and a potential campaign for president. this is 45 minutes. [applause] >> thank you very much. you had a late night. >> not really. >> is bob still here? what would you like to ask senator rubio? [laughter] >> are you still doing this? >> ask him a real question. this is a great chance. >> last night you talked about a new direction for the republican party. and one of the things that you talked about is education. and how to make higher education cheaper, how to reform pell grants. what will be the number one thing that you would do, that you can do as a freshman minority senator? >> well, i don't think there is a number one thing. i think there's a number of number one things, you have to do them a
on immigration. tax reform, the republicans have said they want tax reform. president obama said the same. we need tax reform. immigration and tax reform post the fiscal cliff will create a legacy and may see congress doing something. >> that is why it is so important that they figure out a way to come together before the end of the year hopefully. if the environment is poisoned like it was after the stimulus, after the health care debate, the next four years will be ugh low. >> that's true. the higher number of women increases the chances. we will see. >> i saw the women here smiling. we were talking about how collaborative they were. the guys, not so much. >> we don't smile. i agree. the more women the better. i'm agreeing with you. can i say nothing? i said the more women, the better. i'm agreeing with you. the more women, the less self destructive egos and getting to a deal. do you have a problem with that. >> no,i don't. >> go with it. i give up. >> all right. still ahead, hollywood mogul joins us on set and author sebastian younger will be here. more morning joe in a moment. ♪ for ove
of a bait being dangled in front of republicans into what's going to be a very bad budget deal. >> i've heard this before and interviewed secretary the guy nerks the obama plan would take the corporate tax rate from 35% to 28%. is that in this bill? what's wrong with that? >> first of all, we don't have an actual proposal from the obama administration. again, i think this is just a little distraction, a bobble that they're dangling in front of the republicans. but if we got the rate down to 28%, it depends on how they're, quote, paying for it, unquote. and if they make our world wide tax system worse, if they force companies to declare investment expenses as taxable income, that's going to bias the system against new call tapital. there's all sorts of bad ways to finance it. on the other hand, if they're getting rid of the ethanol loophole and all that, it's good news. i don't trust the white house because their track record is so far to the left. >> you're not trusting them, i get that. what about this sort of conundrum. supposed they did drop the corporate tax rate from 35 to 28 an
the fiscal abyss. if president obama were to offer such a plan, republicans would act favorably. going over the cliff is unnecessary. as it has been observed in "the wall street journal," the president is boxing in the republicans. he is offering them a deal they cannot accept. first, the president has repeatedly called for a balanced solution involving both revenue and less spending. what is obvious to the most casual observer is that this plan is not a balanced. the fiscal cliff involves nearly four dollars of anticipated revenue from higher taxes for every dollar of spending cuts, yet the president wants more revenue and fewer spending cuts. if we fell off the cliff, his plan calls for another round of stimulus spending. you have got to be kidding me. what the president's plan lacks is any reform in our entitlement system. the unrestrained growth in entitlement system is driving deficits and driving the debt even higher than the percentage of our gdp. it is estimated to be as high as $128 trillion. even if they confiscate all of the income that excesses $1 million, we cannot pay for the
on the republican side. we're not going to raise the debt ceiling. we're not going to let obama borrow anymore money or any american congress borrow anymore money until with fix this country from becoming greece. that requires significant entitlement reform to save social from bankruptcy and medicare from bankruptcy. social security is going bankrupt in about 20, 25 years. medicare is going bankrupt in 15 or 20 years. the baby boomers are coming in at 10,000 a day. and we just can't scene this. martha: president last week said we'll not play that game. last time around they wouldn't let the debt ceiling go up, i tell you right now, something to this effect we will play that game. >> we will play that game, mr. president. that is not a game. the game you're play something small ball. you're talking about raising rates on top 2% that would run the government for 11 days. you got reelected. how about doing something big that is not liberal? how about doing something big that is bipartisan. every big idea he has is a liberal idea that drowns us in debt. how been maing up, mr. president and use your mand
mr. obama will persuade the republican-led state legislature. >> these so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> the president preaching to the choir yesterday. he was greeted by rick snyder at the airport in detroit. michigan would be the 24th right to work state in the nation and with its union background, it would be a huge blow to organized labor, which continues to lose its share of the work force. it was a little under 12% of the work force last year. it was 20% 30 years ago. snyder says his goal isn't hurting unions, it's helping michigan. >> i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. you have hard working people in michigan. this is giving workers choice. >> republicans lost five seats in the michigan legislature last month and democrats accused them of fast tracking the right to work bill through the house and senate in a single day last week to get it done before the new legislature takes office next month. the
labor unions. >>> here in washington, republicans turn the tables on president obama. we're going to tell you what specific information they are now demanding. >>> and who was she? you're going to find out why a century's old mystery may be closer to a solution. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we begin with today's dramatic defeat for union workers in the industrial's heartland. this was the scene as republicans pushed through right to work bills saying that they don't have to pay union dues in in order to get a job. on lookers chanted, shame on you after the vote. this is a watershed moment because michigan is the same as countless union struggles, including this 1932 march where five people died and dozens were injured when unemployed workers were attacked by police and ford motor company security guards. after decades of gains, fewer than 12% of u.s. workers now belong to unions. in michigan, it's fewer than 18%. cnn's poppy harlow is at the state capital in lansing. how did it go? >> reporter: are an historic day in michigan. a state at the heart of organized
to averting the fiscal cliff. president obama telephoned house speaker john boehner tuesday afternoon.rnoo sources describe the exchange as tense. at issue a new republican budget budg proposal, one that came after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all
this notion if he were to extend those, that would be a victory. >> isn't that the obvious, republicans are in favor of a tax cut? i don't feel that's moving too much to the center. >> mathematical sense, what obama has said is he wants to extend 98% of the tax cuts. he's also said i want to cut medicare in some ways and social security maybe later. but those are big ideological victories for the republican party, if you come to think about it. a lot of democrats would rather not think about cuts, they'd want to continue to do stimulus spending. >> the 2% they don't agree on is so important and symbolic for the democrats and something that president obama campaigned on and feels that, you know, he has a mandate to do, which is to raise taxes on the top 2%. >> to your point, jane, there's a sense of an emotional investment in not getting these top marginal tax cuts extended. i want to play sound from harry reid this morning on the floor. you get a sense the republican resistance is theater, but there is a genuine belief they cannot extend these things. let's listen to harry reid. >> how
effect as scheduled on less republicans give and to president obama as the man to raise tax rates at all where income levels. geiger says the problem is too big to be solved without raising tax rates on the wealthy. he drew a fierce response from republicans saying that the statement was stunning and irresponsible. egest republic golegest republis ordered protesters supporting and opposing president mohammed morsi to leave the area around the presidential palace that has been the site of fierce clashes. the guard gave broad protesters on both sides time to clear out. >> the death toll from the typhoon hit the southern philippines has climbed to 350 people today. it hit hardest in the southern philippines where entire families were washed away. and the four injured people are still missing. nato has called on north korea to cancel its plans for a second rocket launch. ambassador stated yesterday that it wants would violate u.n. resolutions and could be is that the stabilize the korean peninsula. russia and china are urging north korea to not proceed with the planned rocket launchers. >> i
for senator mcconnell was running for reelection now may not work for house republicans. even if there is an agreement between speaker boehner and president obama, it is not clear it will be acceptable. host: david is on the phone from york, pennsylvania, republican line, good morning. caller: i'm calling from arkansas, actually. i am an attorney and i've tried to watch the actions of this president. i take into consideration the books he read and he uses the philosophers who taught him as he grew up. i really believe that based on the way he is trying -- that based on the way he has been trained, i think the president wants to go over the cliff because that will achieve the things he was buried he wants to break up the republican party. he wants to break its back and then he also wants to go over the cliff because he wants to have a financial crisis because if you look at the study, that is the only way he can really achieve the type of social and fiscal non-responsibility he wants to achieve. that is break the back of the economy and then we have a crisis. and then he will c
in that meeting. reuters is reporting the house republican offer issued last week, quote, remains the republican offer. speaker john boehner is still waiting for a new proposal from president obama, that is all uncording to an unnamed aide to the speaker. meanwhile some republicans are calling on speaker john boehner to give the president what he wants on taxes so the party can focus on cutting entitlement programs. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%, and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. >> if speaker john boehner ends up with senator corker has just said he is we will get a large agreement. but speaker john boehner hasn't said that, and so we democrats realize that there have to be two sides to this bargain. jon: special report anchor bret baier joins us now in washington. if people like senator corker say the tax increases would be okay with them on the highs income earners in this country it seems that that is boun
, straight ahead. >>> house republicans give president obama a counteroffer on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. will it be a compromise the president can agree with? >> flames shoot more than 70 feet in the air as a gas explosion destroys homes in one community. what went wrong? that story, coming up. >>> guests include elijah cummings, charlie crist and marsha blackburn. "starting point" begins right now. >> hi, everybody. holiday shoppers scrambling for cover at a crowded mall after a gunman opened fire. 10,000 people inside the clackamas town center mall when a man wearing a mask suddenly started firing. chaos erupted. when it was over, three people dead, including the shooter himself. a young woman left wounded, fighting for her life right now. >> the mall is supposed to be a place we can all take our families, feel comfortable that this is a great place, especially at the holiday season like this. and these things aren't supposed to happen. >> i want to begin with dan simon live in portland. we know that the police have identified the shooter, but is there any indication of a motive
obama says a budget deal could be reached in a week if republicans accept higher taxes for the wealthy he was 2% of americans. but that "fiscal cliff" deadline is less than four weeks away and still no deal between the president and republicans. cbs 5 political reporter grace lee on what this gridlock could cost californians. >> reporter: basically, it could cost us billions. the daily democrat estimates that if no deal is reached and we go over the "fiscal cliff," our state could lose out on $4.5 billion of federal money and lose 200,000 jobs. and this can hit the lower middle class with a one-two punch a combination of unemployment and fewer social safety nets. >> they want us to close on wednesday at noon. >> reporter: a social security employee for 30 years is joining fellow federal workers across the u.s. to spread the word the "fiscal cliff" is looming and at stake social security benefits for millions. >> they seem to go for the people who had the least political pull, in other words poor and disabled and people here in east oakland. >> reporter: like this social security recipi
. >> good morning, everybody. >>> house speaker john boehner and president obama met sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats have been deadlocked on how to stop tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of the year. >>> dallas cowboys defensive lineman josh brent has been released from jail after posting half a million dollars bail. he is being charged in the death of his teammate and close friend jerry brown. police say he was drunk awhen h wrecked the car that killed brown. >>> morsi rescinded much of the de krch decree. a disputed draft of the constitution for the country. >>> mandy drew is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mandy. >> good morning, natalie. lots of headwind from overseas, political shakeup in italy and sharply slowing down chinese export growth, keeping u.s. traders on edge not to mention the vagaries of the fiscal cliff. markets move with progress or lack of progress as the case may be. the congressional budget office says we could be back in recession the first half of next year if a deal is not re
. 46% are opposed. let me bring in executive director of log cabin republicans, r. clark cooper, and democratic strategist and former dnc advisor to the obama '08 campaign, jamal simmons. gentlemen, good morning. >> good morning. >> opposition to gay marriage has obviously softened, even among conservatives. here's what george will had to say about the issue. >> this decision by the supreme court came 31 days after an election day in which three states for the first time endorsed same sex marriage. they could see it's now safe to look at this because there is something like an emerging consensus. quite riliterally, the oppositi to gay marriage is dying. >> here's what he's talking about. look at the numbers from a "washington post" poll. 66% of young people support same sex unions. 33% oppose, but if you look at 65 plus, the numbers are almost exactly the opposite. so i'm wondering, is it no longer a question of if gay marriage will be legal, but when, and if that's the case, how do you get your fellow republicans on board after they made such a very strong statement in their pl
." >>> we begin with president obama getting into a new fight with republicans and it's a fight he may actually lose. this afternoon in detroit, the president blasted a package of anti-union bills. michigan republicans, governor, is ush pushing through his state's legislature. >> what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. >> even though the cheering went on for nearly half a minute, it looks like those anti-union bills may, in fact, have enough support to pass michigan's legislature, despite union threats of massive demonstrations. cnn's alison kosik is in the capital, lance, watching what's going on. explain what the fight is all about, why it's so intense. >> reporter: well, first of all, here at the michigan state capit capital, it's more about the calm before the storm. those demonstrations of thousands of people descending on the state capitol. police are gearing up for what's coming up tomorrow when the votes are expected to happen. what this is all about is the ri
family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up. >> woodruff: the president phoned house speaker john boehner yesterday, their first direct talk in almost a week. but today white house spokesman jay carney wouldn't share details of the call. >> we believe it's in the interest of achieving an agreement not to do that. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said yesterday the white house was absolutely willing to go over the cliff if republicans held firm in their opposition to raising rates on the wealthy. but it was the administration's other demand-- to give the president authority over the nation's debt ceiling that roiled tempers on capitol hill. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell tried yesterday
to get republicans to agree? and if john boehner needs a concession from obama to get his people to go along wax rate increases on million dollar incomes, he's going to need more of a concession to get them to go along on a permanent extension of the debt limit because people see that as the one tax stop lever they have to put pressure on democrats. >> so i saw some of your tweets. did you almost start crying? how scared were you with the -- >> are you talking about the ball game? >> yeah, i'm talking about the knee. >> yeah, well, i was scared. >> petrified. >> it looked bad. >> what happened? >> rg3. it's not a serious injury, right? not an acl or -- >> the redskins did an mri last night. they came out and said his acl and mcl, neither was torn. so, you know, it appears to be a hyperextension, which, you know, i would guess it would keep him out there week and maybe another week, but i don't think it's a catastrophic injury and you might have noticed, joe, we had quite a good backup quarterback, a rookie from michigan state, kirk cousins. >> and we've got johnny football, freshman. >
for the speaker to say. president obama outlined very specific cuts in his proposal to the republicans. republicans have not offered anything specific in cuts whatsoever. of course, nothing specific in revenue whatsoever. all generalizations. the republicans want more spending cuts. tell us what you want. that is what i say to them. we cannot read their minds. we are not going to make a proposal for them. republicans know perfectly well that democrats are willing to make tough choices on these issues, if they understand, which i hoped they do by now, we are going to look out for the middle class first. the only thing standing in the way of an agreement is republicans, their insistence on holding tax cuts for middle- class families hostage to bring on the fiscal cliff. there is a lot of bluster coming from republicans, but that is crumbling quickly. every day, we read about more republicans breaking ranks, calling out the speaker to allow tax rates to rise on the wealthiest. yesterday, it was parker and coburn. today, florida governor haley barbour. he said, "i would take raising rates
, let's take the tally. republicans lost their fight against the aca when president obama first signed it. they lost again when the supreme court upheld it. then they lost one last time when the american people handed the president a mandate on aca by re-electing him. when exactly are the republicans going to give up the fight that they've already lost three times? hmm. with me at the table, new york university constitutional law professor, kenji yoshino. donna edwards of marylandment senior fellow, bob herbert and jayening off, the former director of consumer insurance oversight at the u.s. department of health and human services. nice to have you all here. >> a long intro for what your job was. your role was to begin the i am plemtation of aca. in certain ways you got the plum part of the job where you get to cover your young people longer and the end of these insurance mandates in certain ways. but this is the hard part. what should we be looking for? >> exchanges, if they're implemented correctly, can for the first time give individuals who have had no bargaining power against insu
in the signature piece of legislation from president barack obama's first term. december 14th is the deadline for states to notify the government will plans setting up health care exchanges mandated by the affordable care act. republican governors who have been dragging their feet can no longer treat the reform law like a boogeyman that will disappear if they wish hard enough. because, if i may borrow a phrase from method man, when the american people elected president obama, they let you know it's real. yes, it's really real son. even the president's political nemesis, john boehner, knows that to be true. >> you had said next year that you would repeal the health care vote. that still your mission? >> i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> now, of course, boehner promptly walked those comments back later that day. that doesn't make what he said any less of a fact. central to the implementation of that law is the creation of health care exchanges. now, let me explain. these aca exchanges are online marketpl
with the president negotiating "the washington post" writes this today. "obama could be a ruthless negotiator trying to squeeze every possible concession out of republicans before agreeing to their last offer at the last minute. he could also be an unskilled negotiator who misjudges his opponents, overreaches wildly and backs unintentionally off the cliff." which one do you think he'll deliver this time around. you know this negotiating style well. >> well, look, let me back up a little, and the basic view, they're going to reach an agreement. everybody remembers the failure from last time, the debt talks where there is damage done to the economy. there's enough pressure in the room in the sense of not only avoiding that, avoiding all these cuts and the member's own desire to get back on to the holidays. put that together in an election victory for the president of the united states, you already have republicans acknowledging on the tax issue which is a primary focus of the president we'll be fair in this approach that he is right and they're going to agree to that. so my view is they're going to wo
. no laughter meant no. [laughter] >> now, it looks like the tide is very much going against republicans. do you agree with that? >> well, no. i think in the short political term, yes. polling shows republicans will be blamed. remember, this is the obama era. it's going to go down as his economy. i ask people who was speaker of the house during the great depression when roosevelt was president. i'll give a hundred dollars to anyone who can name who the speaker of the house was in the critical first hundred days -- >> jim over there would know. >> henry thomas reigny. now, there's a name in the history books. point being, the speaker is an important player, this is significant, but it is obama's job to lead and define so if there's negative consequences here, particularly in the economy, it's going to be in the obama era, things didn't get fixed. who is it? the australian finance minister who says the united states is one budget deal away from being a great country. there's a lot of people in business who think we are poised to do some really good things in the global economy, the united states i
both houses of congress in '94. reagan got clobbered and republicans lost 62% in 1982. if it's bad enough you don't get to a second term. there's a certain laziness. that said, if you look where obama is now and look at what could afflict him in the second term. you already see things down the road. if iraq and afghanistan go south, his decision to end american participation in those countries is going to be seen as a great mistake. if the arab spring turns into a nuclear winter, those decisions are going to afflict his second term. all i'm saying is take a breath before you do a universal theme all presidents are afflicted by a second term. >> of course, we know all presidents are afflicted by a second term and talk about the president's second term course. we're not suggesting the president was arrogant or his people were arrogant, there is -- you've been through so much four, five years into it, is there an exhaustion from not seeing your family, from not eating right, from not living right. you get ground down. >> absolutely. there is that reality, not only the president himsel
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